Knee Injuries: The Pain and The Process

Chapter one, so you fucked up your knee. I like to think of the aging body as an aging car. Once the odometer gets past 50,000 miles something starts to rattle loose. In my case I’m a ’61 Chrysler with really bad shocks. Really fucking bad.  I’m pretty certain I tore the medial meniscus in my left knee. Again. If I’m proven correct this will be the second surgery on that knee. I think it was feeling neglected because last year I had the third surgery on my RIGHT knee. That one was particularly nasty too, torn lateral meniscus and micro fracture surgery. I’m still in month 14 of what my former orthopedic surgeon said could be up to an 18 month recovery process on the right knee and now lefty goes kablooey.

Welcome to my world.

I would like to say that I’m unlucky or not careful but that wouldn’t be true. I’m structurally fucked. Born with a fairly decent case of “knock knees” and being diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis at the age of 12 was an early precursor to what the rest of my life had in store. Guess this ’61 Chrysler was built on a Friday.

Let’s say that you’re new to the knee injury thing and you’re not sure what to expect going forward. You’re probably in some pain, the knee is swollen and maybe makes some unpleasant crunchy noises when you walk and you’re probably a little scared. That’s where I come in. I’m going to walk you through the process and ibuprofen or the meds that the doctor gives you will help you through the pain. Brace yourself though. Unless you have a catastrophic knee injury like a torn ACL or PCL this ain’t gonna happen fast. Not nearly fast enough.

Not nearly fast enough.

It was one week ago today that I got up out of bed, took a couple of steps and realized that my knee sounded like somebody was cracking some walnuts. Real noise and really uncomfortable. A few weeks prior to this while doing my morning 5 mile walk I was at my farthest distance point away from home, the point of no return you might say, when I felt a pretty major jolt of pain in my left knee. I stopped and took the time to say “Oh goddamn motherfucker shit ass bitch, that better not be happening again.” Then I put my headphones back on and walked the rest of the way home. The next morning I recognized tell tale sign #1, swelling on the BACK of the knee. This was not good. I tried and was fairly successful treating it for a few weeks using a familiar acronym that you will get familiar with in a hurry:

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Rest

Ice

Compression

Elevation

R.I.C.E will be the first thing you will need to start doing as soon as the knee is injured. After using this technique and alternating my walking days with a gym day I really thought I had a chance to beat this bastard. The swelling decreased on the back of the knee but not appreciably and I was able to get a few weeks of activity before last week happened. When you hear the rattle and crunch that’s when you know…

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Nice grammar dickhead.

The Pain:

I’m not the person to really give you a true measure of pain having dealt with knee issues for fucking ever but think of it as a nagging toothache in your knee. It’s unpleasant but tolerable. Note: this is for a meniscus injury, I’ve heard that torn ligaments are quite another story. I also had a fun condition years back called Patella Femoral Syndrome, this is when your knee cap decides it can wander around at will occasionally popping out of it’s little groove on the femur and doing a little partial dislocation. That’s some motherfucking pain right there. For the meniscus, it’s ugly, uncomfortable and honestly a little nauseating but it can be handled with ibuprofin and ice and you can survive it. This is fortunate because as you are about to learn this shit does not get fixed quickly. The pain after the procedure is a lot more intense and some prescription happy pills will be prescribed. I usually just take the heavier shit for a day or two and then dial back down to the Advil.

The Process:

This is how the shit all breaks down, please note that I have a medical PPO coverage through my employer. I had an HMO for right knee surgery #2 and it took 6 FUCKING MONTHS to get through that fucking tangled nightmare. Thanks Kaiser Permanente! I intentionally changed medical coverage to a PPO when I realized right knee surgery #3 was going to happen, also an indirect result of having a shitty second surgery (thanks again KP!) With a PPO once you learn the process, it will go something like this:

Visit to your primary care physician for initial exam and referrals.

X-Rays!  (WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!??????!!!!!!!) They’ll tell you for establishing an overall structure of your knee as well as ruling out possible additional damage. Bullshit I say but you still have to do it.

Find an orthopedic surgeon. What are the two most important words when finding a specialist? In Network! trust me as someone who could have bought a fucking Kia with the out of pocket paid for my last surgery. Do your best to reduce the swelling prior to visiting the orthopedic surgeon lest he decides to aspirate or “drain” the knee. While the results of removing the excess fluids are noticeable and immediate, holy mother of fuck it’s unpleasant. Unless you enjoy a big goddamn needle going under your knee cap.

/shudders

Ortho surgeon will have you get an MRI. Visit the Imaging center, strip down and go in the tube and prepare to  listen to some heavy industrial rhythms.

Ortho surgeon calls you back in for an eval of the MRI and surgery date is set.

Back to primary care physician for pre-surgery exam.

SURGERY DAY!

Back to doctor a week later for exam. This will repeat 2-3 times , stitches come out after 12-14 days. True story, I have removed my own stitches before, the subject of one of Drew’s Funbag letters. Eventually the surgeon will prescribe..

Physical Therapy! Welcome to the house of pain. This goes on for weeks.

Three to five months down the road you should be close to your old self but full recovery is about 6 months for a broken down hooptie like me.

I’ll get into more detail as we encounter each part of the process. I saw my primary care physician last Friday, had my x-rays this past Monday and I’m meeting the surgeon on Saturday morning.

Three more days of this shit before the next step in the process.

Fuck.

 

One final note: Sunday Gravy will continue as normal for as long as I am able.

I bleed for you!

 

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SonOfSpam

Sorry to hear that, fellow-Southern-California-old-guy-with-less-than-ideal-knees. My 20 year old ACL repair is making funny clicks (probably meniscus stuff), and I look forward to more cutting soon. Remember that no matter what the doctor says, you know better.

And get well soon.

Covalent Blonde

All I want to know is how are we supposed to do a pub crawl when you can’t even stand?

ballsofsteelandfury

I may be able to secure a rickshaw…

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RICKSHAW WRECK!

WCS

Guh. Sorry, buddy. Pop the pills, take ride. It’s better than reality.

Kungjitsu

I hope you have a quick and easy recovery.

My only experience with a physical therapist was a “deep tissue massage”. 10 minutes in, I gave up bin Laden and Whitey Bulger. She was all, “We need to stretch the fascia and get some good blood in there.” FUCK YOU!!! No we don’t.

Doktor Zymm

Best of luck on this go-round! I think knees are probably the most problematic of the leg joints to fuck up, with hips being second, followed by ankles and then the various foot joints.

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Kungjitsu

That’s what I keep telling the principal at the elementary school down the street.

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I guess what we are all saying is that we care about you and your pain and can empathize somewhat. We know it will be a hassle and we are here to support you; especially with these great updates. We are here to give you shit and post unrelated/ related graphics that will help us accomplish this and accomplish nothing. We your internet friends will get up, pause the TV and pour you a new internet beer when you need it. We will also slap you on the ass when you are in a awkward position and can’t do anything about.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

My worst surgery went as smooth and painless as can be. It was the thought of sticking a wire in your arteries all the way to your heart that freaked me a bit.

Sill Bimmons

Cath.

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That was first to find the problem areas.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

I think we need a second opinion:

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Third.

blaxabbath

But you’re still going to do all the cooking posts, right?

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From a chair, right?

Sill Bimmons

“How’s Joe Paterno? We gonna bring that back? How about that whole… how about that whole deal?”

Hang in there, Donald.

Only three more months…

He’s not going to make it, is he?

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One can only go so far only riding a wave of inarticulate rage and fear.

blaxabbath

“I once had to fly coach from Seattle to Pullman. The guy in front of me had his seat back the entire trip. So, yeah, I think I know a little more about knee pain than you.”

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

I would hold yeah right up so he could punch him in the “quiet car.”

Then I would keep holding for a few minutes, maybe a little tighter, with a hip thrusting motion.

blaxabbath

Because nothing says ‘build through the draft’ like giving up all your draft picks.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Looks like they want one of the QBs; if he turns into an Allpro great, if it goes RGIIII welp……

blaxabbath

I’m sure he’ll make the pro bowl.

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Are you saying that either Jared Goff or Carson Wentz will suck in the NFL?

Stung teak!

Sill Bimmons

Ed Snider died.

I don’t care about that one way or the other, but if I had a nickel for every Flyers fan who told me “We’re never going to win a Cup again so long as Snider is alive” I’d have a metric shit ton of nickels.

Sill Bimmons

I’ve never had another person cut me open and I intend to keep that string going as long as possible.

montythisseemsstrangetome

Is anyone else turned on?

theeWeeBabySeamus

You mean in general, or specifically because of yeah right’s knee issues?

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

or any combination of those fourteen things.

…sploosh

….sproing

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Also I’m curious: ‘with a fairly decent case of “knock knees” ‘

When were you a prostitute?

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Sill Bimmons

Aren’t we all.

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Well, “Experienced in client relations.” and “Forty plus years of bringing client contracts to successful conclusions.”

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Moose©®℗™℠ Client Relations: All Our Endings Are Happy!

Fronkenshteen

Terrible knee-surgery story. In the post-op room, the nurse gave me a shot of morphine when the epidural wore off, and noted it on my chart. Then they wheeled me up to my room. Morphine lasts about 20 minutes, a fact I did not know at the time, so I was in fresh agony by the time I got there. I told my new nurse that I was in a lot of pain, and she looked at my chart. “It says you just got your meds downstairs. I can’t give you anything for three & a half hours.” Fuck. So I spent those 3.5 hours essentially feeling like i had a red-hot poker laying on my knee. I was pulling the sheets out from under the mattress and grinding my teeth by the time she came in with my actual prescription of 2 Perca-something-or-others. It took a little while for them to kick in, but eventually I was drifting off into hospital sleep when the nurse came running back into the darkened room and whispered, “My god I’m so sorry! You were supposed to get two of those when you got up here. The post-op nurse just wrote “administered pain meds”, instead of “administered Morphine”. Here, take two more.” and hustled out of the room. Fuckin’ VA hospitals.
Hang in there! And may your physical therapist be a fucking dimepiece.

theeWeeBabySeamus

“I’m choosing a different location this time.”

So you’re gonna let them massage your groin this time, or what? 😉
/not judging

theeWeeBabySeamus

We were all thinking it.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Please don’t change your avatar.

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Don T

A health insurer is called Permanent Kaiser? Was “Nope, Ya Wimp” already taken?

Don T

I hope you get well and KP pays for everything. Good luck.

Sill Bimmons

I always heard that KP is kind of a shit detail.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

We are also glad your injury was not a little higher.

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It’s against regulations; but they already leaked your x-rays to the interethernwebs.
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Beerguyrob

I clicked “This is great”, but please know that I think it is not great that it has happened to you (again).

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GREAT!

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I like that you are hanging your internet anger on the x-rays. Good right (write) up and it sounds all too familiar, at least I didn’t have the surgeries, well for that anyway.

Get well hop-a-long. Take advantage of this and talk in your pirate voice.

Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

You know where they get paid? MRIs.

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Sill Bimmons

They get paid regardless of what radiological films they’re evaluating.

Trust me, I used to do the same thing for brains.

And an X-ray of a joint is usually necessary before surgery to see if there are any bone chips or spurs in the joint, whether the bones are currently in contact and shearing, and how the bones will react when soft tissue structural elements are altered and/or removed.

Sill Bimmons

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From what I said yesterday I did look through some of my past records and the chest x-ray was $102 and as near as I can tell the MRI was +$4,500, not exactly sure since there were charges associated with it that didn’t show up on that bill. Of course the machine is a multimillion dollar, highly maintained piece of equipment.

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theeWeeBabySeamus

Someone stole that half skeleton’s patellas. Just saying.

Sill Bimmons

Looks like they stole both of them to me.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Yup.
Then again not having a CNS is probably the bigger problem I suppose.

Sill Bimmons

Heart, lungs…these are all structures I would like to have in my functioning human body.

theeWeeBabySeamus

Agreed. That half skeleton is missing a whole lotta shit. Including actual shit.

How it’s still moving is kinda spooky.

Sill Bimmons

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Moose -The End Is Well Nigh

Another fun joint that if it is not totally fucked you live with it and don’t get surgery.

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jjfozz

Ye gods. And I thought my back and knees were fucked. I’m sending you healing wishes, and a case of deer antler spray that was found in the dumpster behind Ravens Stadium two days after the last Super Bowl win . . .

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