Your “It’s Orangemen’s Day, So Let’s Blow Something Up!” Sunday Evening Open Thread

So, aside from today being someone’s special day,

I figured why not remind all the [DFO] readers about the gloriousness that is “The Twelfth”.

July 12th commemorates two great victories in the “War of the Two Kings” (if you don’t want your car blown up), the Williamite War (if you do), or the Jacobite War (Éirinn go Brách!). This was all part of the “Glorious Revolution”, when the Protestant William of Orange & his wife (and first cousin) Mary invaded England at the behest of the Protestant Parliament to oust the Catholic King, and Mary’s father, James II.

The first, the Battle of the Boyne,

took place July 1, 1690 across the River Boyne between the Catholic forces of James II

and the Protestant forces of Prince William of Orange.

Outnumbered, the Jacobites (Catholics) fought for James II as he had guaranteed their religious freedom, but they were heavily outnumbered by the combined English – Dutch forces. A number of pitched battles forced James’ forces to give up their ground & retreat south of the River Shannon. It was a resounding victory for William’s forces, and the defeat forced James II to flee from Ireland to France,

ensuring the permanence of a Protestant monarchy in England & guaranteeing Protestant ascendancy in Ireland.

The second battle commemorated on July 12th is the Battle of Aughrim.

It was the final major battle fought on Irish soil in the Williamite Wars, took place on July 12, 1691, and was the bloodiest to have taken place in Ireland – over 7,000 people were killed.

It was mostly decided before it began, as the Jacobites had lost half their army to desertion once James II had fled to France. But once the battle began, the Irish were able to hold off the superior English numbers for most of the day, until attrition wore them down. What ended the day for the Jacobites was their commander, Charles Chalmot de Saint-Ruhe – also known as “Saint Ruth”, having his head blown off by an English cannonball:

There sat the body of St. Ruth indeed, but it was his lifeless corpse – a headless trunk. A cannonshot from the Williamite batteries had struck his head from his body, as if the Tyburn ax and block had done their fearful work. St. Ruth, the vain, the brave, was no more!

Having lost their leader, Irish forces fell into disarray as many abandoned the battlefield & fled English reprisals. This led the English cavalry to run down their opponents & slaughter them on the field, leaving their bodies to be picked at by dogs for days & weeks after the battle.

The Battle of Aughrim effectively ended James II’s efforts to retake his crown from “British” soil.

Now, July 12th is, essentially, the “President’s Day” of the English remembering the beatings they gave the Irish. The Boyne was July 1 & Aughrim was July 12.  However, those were dates under the Julian calendar (a.k.a. the “Orthodox” calendar). When the British switched to the Gregorian calendar in 1752, after the Chesterfield Act of 1750, July 1st became July 11th, and July 12th became July 23rd. Since July 12th lay in the middle, that was the date chosen by the Orange Order – founded in 1795 – for commemoration of the battles.

The flag of the Orange Order

James II died in 1701, in exile in France. William, titled William III in England, died in 1702 & was replaced on the throne by Queen Anne, the younger daughter of Charles II, also Mary’s father. Since Anne died childless, the line then shifted to the Hanoverian branch, which gave us the Georges, and is the current royal line that continues through today.

The Order was formed in 1795 to defend “the King and his heirs so long as he or they support the Protestant Ascendancy”, and they continue to march today in support of their desire to remain in Britain.

With occasional Catholic responses.

So, on this most Protestant of days, I wish Viva a “Happy Birthday” and, since it’s my birthday too, let’s each pour ourselves a couple & toast the day.

Sláinte!

Tonight’s … entertainment?:

  • USL Championship Soccer:
    • Louisville City FC vs. Pittsburgh Riverhounds – 5:00PM | ESPN2
      • From Lynn Family Stadium.
  • MLS is Back Tournament: Group D matches
    • Sporting KC vs. Minnesota United – 8:00PM | ESPN / TSN
    • Real Salt Lake vs. Colorado Rapids – 10:30PM | ESPN / TSN

Remember – NHL playoffs start August 1. There’s more on the horizon, if we just have faith.

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Gratliff

Speaking of Jeff Garlin, my kid sent me the below clip, and literally just thinking that thought aged me another 10 years. Apparently, he’s had an ABC show for 7 years? Huh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08StmIeOIAE

ballsofsteelandfury

To expand on the Franco Harris vs Jerome Bettis thing. There are several factors at play:

– Franco started his career and pretty much ended it in Pittsburgh. (The Seattle time does not exist). Jerome started with the Rams and later in his career went with the Steelers so he wasn’t considered a Pittsburgh guy.

– Running was much more prevalent in the 70s than in the 90s. Franco gained his yards against defenses prepped for the run, not worried about the pass.

– Bettis was exceptional because he was a throwback to a back that would fit in during the 70s. As such, he stood out above the rest of the running backs of his time. If he was playing in the 70s, he would have been great, but not as unusual and probably wouldn’t have had the fame he did.

– As Moose says, defense wins championships and enable success. Franco had a good one and Jerome didn’t.

Gratliff

But which one was more from Detroit? That’s the most important criteria.

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You would have thought they would have mentioned since the one SB was in Detroit.

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Franco had Rocky too. Franco was a more dynamic receiver. Two very different styles.

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Bettis had the combination of a Chuck Knox style offense (use an RB until he is dead) and his own inexperience macho college attitude that he had to take on every defender, no matter what for the first few years. How probably took a few years off his career, and made his life sore.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Bettis was the better bowler

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“Why are you bringing up golf?”

-Trent G. Altoona, PA.

Viva La Tabula Raza

“Or Bocce, for that matter? is it because of my first name, you racist?!?”
—Franco Harris

Dunstan

To be fair, Roethlisberger is a tough name to spell, so Terry usually just calls him “Ben.”

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Oh and shit I haven’t watched the GWS replay yet so please don’t spoil it for my dumb ass yet.

BrettFavresColonoscopy

Salmon burgers tonight were from trader joes but I made the aioili myself.

Gumbygirl

I love a good aoli! I’m making a Nicoise salad tonight, because it’s too hot to cook.

Gratliff

Gonna try Curb Your Enthusiasm again and see how far I can get before I get sidetracked again, and holy shit there’s Sweet Dee on TV in 2000.

Gumbygirl

This is how Scotchy likes them in North Ontario
https://youtu.be/Ab6ST1q43c4

ballsofsteelandfury

I don’t know why, but WordPress doesn’t like the shortened URL. Here’s the link I used to post your video:

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab6ST1q43c4&feature=youtu.be

I left a space between the h and the t so that it would not embed again.

Gumbygirl

Where do you find the longer links? I just assumed posting from my shitty phone was the problem!

ballsofsteelandfury

You have to go to the desktop version of Youtube on the internet. The YouTube app won’t give you the long link. On my phone, I have to click on “View desktop version” in the browser instead of the mobile version.

It’s a pain in the ass, but we don’t know how to change it. The site’s built on WordPress and we’re stuck with that weird little quirk.

Gratliff

if it’s an iphone, hit the share button in the youtube app, then hit more, then hit copy. That second copy button will give you the full URL because phones are stupid.

Gumbygirl

Android.

Gratliff

Alas, you may be stuck with the request desktop site thing

Gumbygirl

I am more than a little technologically challenged, as I was born in the Eisenhower administration like Viva!

Viva La Tabula Raza

I LIKE IKE! (but Nixon was a dick).

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Gratliff

lol it even censored the URL

ballsofsteelandfury

Damn Right!

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Well, Washington doesn’t even bother redacting the illegal shit in documents anymore, so….

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

But the link still works! I think that’s so awesome.

Viva La Tabula Raza

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Italians are taking this very hard.

Gratliff

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The actor in the litter commercial would have been fantastic on that show.

Brick Meathook

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Viva La Tabula Raza

Just got online, old friends came over for drinks and a grillup. Thanks for the history lesson and the birthday shout-out, BGR. Happy birthday to us!

litre_cola

Little known fact is that ” Grill up” in Northern Ontario has very exotic meats some would say forbidden meats.

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Forbidden meats……first cousins?

litre_cola

/Name is Moose, northern traditions could be his specialty

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Oh, I see, married first cousins.

ballsofsteelandfury

Scotchy’s Northern Ontario Grill Up Exotic Meats would be my FF team name if I still played FF

Dunstan

Lots of strange traditions in Northern Ontario:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw7rzpvDvS0

Viva La Tabula Raza

Today in South Texas it just meant some Hispanically-seasoned-and-marinated chicken wings grilled by my Hispanically-born-and-raised bestest drinking buddy. We told “stupid gringo” jokes over a nice Barbera from Alba.

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Dunstan

Fake Baseball Final Four Matchup #2:
(14) 2012 SF Giants vs. (2) 1961 NY Yankees

The Giants emerged out of the Jack Buck Region, a section so riddled with upsets that only 2 of SF’s 4 victories were against higher seeds. In round 1, they dropped game one before disposing of the third-seeded 1942 Cardinals in six games. They lost the opener again in round 2 against the sixth-seeded 1910 Athletics, but reeled off four straight wins. Then they faced the only two lower-seeded teams, with a wild seven-game series against the fifteenth-seeded 1982 Brew Crew, and a six-game battle against the sixteen seed, the 1967 Red Sox, capped by a 20-6 blowout in Game Six.

With the exception of SS Brandon Crawford, all eight position starters have hit well, led by Angel Pagan (.375/.397/.995) and Pablo Sandoval (.333/.390/.922). Matt Cain, Madison Bumgarner, and Ryan Vogelsong have anchored a solid rotation, and the bullpen has been reliable.

The Yankees are much less of a surprise. They dropped the opening game to the 1998 Padres before winning the next four. In round 2, they fell behind the 1912 Red Sox two games to one, but game back and posted an 11-2 blowout in Game Seven. They swept the 1991 Twins, and took a 3-1 lead against the top-seeded 1929 Athletics before dropping the next two and needing a 1-0 squeaker in Game Seven to survive.

New York has gotten all-around solid pitching, with starters Ralph Terry (5-1, 1.82) and Bill Stafford (3-1, 1.94) dominant. On offense, while Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris have been fine, it’s been Elston Howard (.424/.452/.997) and Bill Skowron (.326/.337/.967) putting up the biggest numbers, and Bob Cerv with some timely pinch-hitting.

I give the edge to the Yankees here, but not by much. Call it 6:5.

litre_cola

Go Gigantes!!!! Vamos!

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Redshirt

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/steelers-all-time-53-man-roster-70s-legends-killer-bs-headline-legendary-lineup/

A question for Steelers fans: CBSsports has Franco Harris listed above Jerome Bettis. Was Harris really better than the Bus?

Mr. Ayo

Detroit > NJ?

litre_cola

I didnt know Bettis was from Detroit. Thank you for your information.

Gumbygirl

Ha!

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Why did the sports media never mention this, especially during the Superb Owl weeks?

Gumbygirl

Gumby and I say they are apples and oranges. Franco ran east/ west a lot, and the bus was mostly straight up the gut. Franco has four rings, kind of hard to argue with that!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Pfft. As we’ve seen down below, Sonic the Hedgehog had way more rings than that and nobody ever puts him in the conversation. It’s a sham.

Gumbygirl

Sonic would be great in the open field, but useless at the goal line.

Redshirt

Agreed. He can run fast, but I’ve never seen him break one tackle!

Redshirt

Yeah, but you can’t blame Bettis on only having one ring. As QB, he had Tomczak, Stewart and Maddox. By the time Big Ben showed up, he was on his last legs and relegated to a change of pace RB when the starter needed a breather.

But in his prime, he was the reason why they kept showing up the playoffs.

Gumbygirl

This is true. I have a soft spot for Tommy Maddox, can’t explain it! At least the bus never had to play with the unspeakable horror, Neil O’Donnell.

ballsofsteelandfury

His name is like Voldemort. It should not be spoken.

Gumbygirl

Gumby met Neil on a plane once. He gave him shit for that Super Bowl he blew.

ballsofsteelandfury

I knew I liked Gumby! :)!

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The four rings were had when they had one of the best and longest lasting defenses ever.

ballsofsteelandfury

Yes, he was.

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Viva La Tabula Raza

Lois gonna be walking very gingerly tomorrow.

Don T

Happy Birthday Tabula & Rob! Note: only open bakery was the police union’s
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Dunstan

I keep telling that cat, Ross and Rachel WERE ON A BREAK!

Gratliff

Apparently, I’m incapable of just enjoying things anymore without overanalyzing everything. Kid is watching Back to the Future for the first time and I find myself reading up on Libyan history to see if it was Russia’s fault or ours they wanted a nuke. Rare occasion of that not being the case, but we’d still be bombing them within the year.

Unsurprised

They were the last of the non-aligned

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CLIT DAMAGE!!

ballsofsteelandfury

I love how he tries to suppress the laughter but ultimately can’t help himself.

Brick Meathook

“Walk it off. Rub some dirt on it.”

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She covers pretty well, ’cause that had to fucking HURT.

ballsofsteelandfury

He felt it too. I think he flinched more than she did!

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Redshirt

Its always nice to see a birth of a fetish.

Unsurprised

Poor Sonic …

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Unsurprised
ballsofsteelandfury

Argentina, of course…

ballsofsteelandfury

That’s pretty damn good

Brick Meathook

right cheery blokes they are:

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(that might be a Chechnyan not sure)

Unsurprised

It speaks volumes how IRA murals in exhort solidarity with the likes of Mandela and MLK and Palestinians, and these filthy Prod bastards are, well, ^^^^

Dunstan

Back in 2005 I took a tour of both the Catholic and Protestant areas of Belfast. It was… interesting. Purely tribal shit. It wasn’t really about religion, it’s just about “they killed my second cousin Brian, so I’m gonna kill those fuckers.”

litre_cola

One of the best tourist things I have ever done was the day long black taxi tour in Belfast. It was so amazing.

litre_cola

M &M’s Chocolate Brownie flavoUr are their best effort. This however has now pushed me to do an m & m’s edition of snaxx.

ballsofsteelandfury

YES!!

litre_cola

BeerguyRob sent me the candy corn flavoUr and those were like speed there was so much sugar.

ballsofsteelandfury

Oh yeah!

Unsurprised
Gumbygirl

Happy Birthday Viva and Rob. Here’s some Bjork!

https://youtu.be/58bAgVSYV1E

Gumbygirl

Thank you.

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He doesn’t know her that well, so he always brings the wrong gift for her birthday.

Dunstan

MLB All-time Final Four matchup #1:

(1) 1927 New York Yankees vs. (11) 1988 Los Angeles Dodgers

“Can you tell us how these teams got here?”

Why, I thought you’d never asked, my fictional interlocutor! I’d be glad to.

The pretourney favorites, the ’27 Yanks actually faced the greatest danger in round 1, when they dropped the first two games at home to the 2008 Tampa Rays. Rumors suggest that a trip to the Tampa strip clubs invigorated Babe Ruth and his colleagues. They stormed back to win the next four games by scores of 9-3, 9-6, 11-10 and 4-1. They were forced to six games in both of their next two series, against the ’68 Tigers and ’55 Dodgers, but only after leading 3 games to 1. They followed up with a sweep of the ’95 Braves to secure their spot in the final four. Gehrig and Ruth have been brutally effective as you might expect, but so have Bob Meusel and Pat Collins. Their pitching has been strong as well, with starters George Pipgras (5-1, 1.85 ERA) and Herb Pennock (4-1, 1.83) leading the way; 19-game winner Wilcy Moore has been a weapon out of the bullpen, with 8 saves and just one loss to go with a 0.93 ERA.

Even Dodger fans have been surprised by the performance of the ’88 squad. They began by knocking off the 6th-seeded 2004 Red Sox in a wild, 13-11 Game Seven. They went to a seventh game again in round 2, beating the 2015 Royals 6-2. The Chuck Finley ’73 Athletics were a comparative cakewalk, going down in five, and the 1907 Cubs took just five games also. Pitching has led the way for the Dodgers, with Tim Belcher going 4-0 with a 0.82 ERA, and John Tudor 4-1 and 1.54. Jay Howell (9 SVs), Alejandro Pena, Brian Holton, and Tim Crews have anchored a solid bullpen. The hitting hasn’t been great, but enough to get the job done, with Kirk Gibson hitting 5 HRs in 24 games, and Gibson, Steve Sax, and John Shelby all in double-digit RBI.

Early betting has the Yankees as an 8:5 favorite, but please, wager responsibly.

ballsofsteelandfury

I’ll throw down one share of DFO stock ($12 value!) that the ’88 Dodgers fall to the Yanks. Any takers?

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Unsurprised

Oh, I never uploaded my weekly collection of finds to Sexy Friday.

ballsofsteelandfury

Nope! You also mentioned a certain Latina Tik Tok girl that was apparently something to behold yet we never beheld her…

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Unsurprised

Keep her sweater from falling off?

ballsofsteelandfury

Or the wall from falling down.

Dunstan

I have a big decision to make.

Cook the rest of yesterday’s homemade short rib burgers, or make yeah right’s cast iron gojujang chicken and potatoes? Whatever I don’t have tonight will get made tomorrow, so really there are no wrong answers.

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Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I…have made…a big decision.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN-EZW0Plsg

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Redshirt

The son of a bitch stole my pre-coitus line!

yeah right

Gochujang!

Dunstan

Good call. If I start now, I’m still sober enough to cook, have enough snacks to tide me over until it’s done.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

NEW JELLE’S MARBLE RUN IS UP!

Dunstan

Oh, come on, who posts about fake sports?

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ballsofsteelandfury

WOOOOO!!!

No spoilers, but I’m a happy Balls today.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

No complaints about the results but I thought the course design was lousy – too little variation in the jump lengths.

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ballsofsteelandfury

It was definitely interesting how packed-together the results were save for a few outliers on either end of the spectrum. Apparently, this was a new design from the previous iteration of the event.

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Were any of them cheating? Was it cold?

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Balls of Chaos were cheating but that’s because they always cheat. I just hate them SO MUCH!

ballsofsteelandfury

Taking Viagra before competing is not cheating. It’s not our fault the marble boner helps with aerodynamics!

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

I liked the sand a lot.

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Thanks for the Slice of Orange.

ballsofsteelandfury

And Beerguyrob!! You snuck that one in there thinking no one would notice!

Happy Birthday!!!

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litre_cola

Still look a reseved 46.

Rikki-Tikki-Deadly

Feliz Navi…wait, CUMPLEAÑOS, Viva La Tabula Raza!

ballsofsteelandfury

Happy Birthday, Viva La Tabula Raza!!!

Viva La Tabula Raza

Thanks! In keeping with the spirit of this website, I am drunk!

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Dunstan

The Philly Athletics have battled back from a 3-1 deficit to force Game Seven against the ’61 Yankees. I know you’re all fascinated.

Dunstan

The A’s are relying on 46-year-old Jack Quinn on the mound; the Yanks counter with 25-year-old Ralph Terry. Both have shutouts going through four innings, though Terry owes his to a great throw to the plate by LF Johnny Blanchard.

Dunstan

Top of the 5th, Bill Skowron’s 8th homer of the tournament opens the scoring for NY.

Dunstan

Through seven innings, it’s still 1-0 Yanks. Old Man Quinn is pitching a gem, striking out nine to just one walk and four hits, but one of those hits was the Skowron homer. Terry is hardly dominating, yet to record a single strikeout, but he’s getting the job done with just five hits and no walks.

Dunstan

Both starters leave in the top of the 8th– Terry for a pinch-hitter, and Quinn after giving up a double to Bobby Richardson. Richardson is stranded. Hal Reniff throws a scoreless 8th for NY. In the 9th, Luis Arroyo and Whitey Ford combine to finish the shutout, and the Yankees win, 1-0, to claim the final spot in the Final Four.

Dunstan

Heh. He’s one of the Project Lincoln guys. They’re doing good work.

Unsurprised

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rockingdog

History yay!

Dunstan

Not really the same without the Harbaugh Bros. though.

litre_cola

Happy bday Raza hope you have a good red (female or wine) and some kind weed.

Viva La Tabula Raza

Thanks amigo. Wine, weed, and some single malt. Nice thing about WFH is I can sleep in a little if need be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoAO0851FwA

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herodotus450

What do you get when you cross the Duke of Orange with the Earl of Sandwich?

Dunstan
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Dunstan

Happy birthday, you old bastard.

Moving on with the ginger cocktails, I have what the distiller calls a “Skinny Mule,” but that’s just bullshit meant to sell shit to cougars. It’s really more like a Ginger Rickey. And not bad, though nothing special either.